Describe the bug
Transformer Engine 2.17 intentionally changed the private PyTorch _GroupedLinear autograd call layout while making GroupedLinear graph-safe.
TE 2.16:
forward(ctx, inp, non_tensor_args, *weights_and_biases)
# non_tensor_args[0] is m_splits
TE 2.17:
forward(ctx, inp, m_splits, non_tensor_args, *weights_and_biases)
# m_splits is now a separate int64 tensor
# non_tensor_args[0] is use_bias
The change was introduced by f8bda5d0. The public GroupedLinear.forward accepts both list and tensor split inputs, while the internal linear_fn dispatch boundary changed positionally.
We understand that _GroupedLinear is private and that downstream users cannot assume its signature will remain stable. In practice, however, there does not appear to be a public functional or interception API for these use cases, so some downstream integrations currently use this boundary to intercept grouped GEMMs or invoke them with externally owned weights. Upgrading TE alone therefore causes deterministic runtime failures in those integrations.
Two downstream examples are affected:
-
NVIDIA ModelOpt intercepts the grouped-linear function to quantize its input and weights. Its compatibility logic finds non_tensor_args in the signature and reads non_tensor_args[0] as m_splits. With TE 2.17, that value is use_bias, so calibration fails with:
File ".../transformer_engine/pytorch/module/grouped_linear.py", line 1788, in forward
out, new_workspaces = linear_fn(
File ".../modelopt/torch/quantization/plugins/transformer_engine.py", line 178, in te_grouped_quantized_linear_fn
num_gemms = len(args[sig_params.index("non_tensor_args") - ctx_offset][0])
TypeError: object of type 'bool' has no len()
Tracking issue: NVIDIA/Model-Optimizer#1940
-
Megatron-Bridge directly calls _GroupedLinear.apply/forward with externally owned grouped adapter weights. The TE 2.16 layout passes x, non_tensor_args, weights..., biases.... Under TE 2.17, the same call is shifted: the old tuple is interpreted as m_splits, the first weight is interpreted as non_tensor_args, and the remaining weights and biases are mispartitioned. The downstream compatibility fix is NVIDIA-NeMo/Megatron-Bridge#4721.
Steps/Code to reproduce bug
The failure is reproduced by changing only the TE pin in Megatron-Bridge PR #4696:
- Passing baseline:
2.16.0+d64bc14d at d64bc14dc87eb658ab98839e4b7687595ee53e2d
- Failing version:
2.17.0+2e559f06 at 2e559f062497bef768dfbe9d7e45548fadeca80a
- ModelOpt remains pinned at
nvidia-modelopt==0.44.0rc5
Run:
uv run python -m pytest -s -x \
tests/functional_tests/test_groups/quantization/models/qwen/test_qwen3_moe_quantization_workflow.py::TestQwen3MoeQuantizationWorkflow::test_qwen3_moe_quantization_and_generation_with_expert_parallelism
The first calibration forward fails at the len(False) exception shown above. The same failure occurs on both GB200 and H100 runners. Full failing job: Megatron-Bridge GitHub Actions.
The signature transition can also be confirmed directly:
import inspect
from transformer_engine.pytorch.module.grouped_linear import _GroupedLinear
print(inspect.signature(_GroupedLinear.forward))
Requested guidance / compatibility support
We will update the affected downstream integrations to handle the new layout. To make that migration less disruptive, would the TE maintainers consider publishing a TE 2.17.x patch release with a short-lived transition path for both grouped-linear call layouts?
# Legacy layout used through TE 2.16
(ctx, inp, non_tensor_args, *weights_and_biases)
# Graph-safe layout introduced in TE 2.17
(ctx, inp, m_splits, non_tensor_args, *weights_and_biases)
If practical, the compatibility path could cover both grad-enabled _GroupedLinear.apply and direct no-grad _GroupedLinear.forward dispatch, preserve the correct backward arity, and emit a deprecation warning for the legacy form before it is removed in a later feature release. We are not asking for indefinite compatibility for the private API.
Because wrappers such as ModelOpt intercept the linear_fn boundary before _GroupedLinear.forward executes, compatibility may need to be provided at that dispatch/hook boundary rather than only inside the autograd function. A regression test using a wrapped linear_fn would cover this downstream use case.
If dual-layout support at this private boundary is not feasible, guidance on the intended supported approach—or an equivalent stable functional/interception API—would be equally helpful. Public GroupedLinear owns its parameters, so it is not currently a drop-in replacement for callers that need to supply externally owned grouped weights.
Environment overview (please complete the following information)
- Environment location: GitHub Actions, Docker, GCP GPU runners
- Transformer Engine install: Git source pin resolved by
uv
- Passing TE:
2.16.0+d64bc14d
- Failing TE:
2.17.0+2e559f06
- Downstream packages: Megatron-Bridge PR #4696 and
nvidia-modelopt==0.44.0rc5
Environment details
- OS: Linux container
- Python: 3.12.3
- Transformer Engine: versions and exact commits listed above
- The full container and runner information is recorded in the linked GitHub Actions job.
Device details
- Reproduced on GB200 and H100 CI runners.
Additional context
The old and new contracts are straightforward for downstream code to distinguish when it owns the call: prefer the explicit m_splits parameter when present, otherwise use non_tensor_args[0]. The harder compatibility case is an interceptor that TE calls through the changed positional boundary, which is why a short TE-side transition window would be valuable.
This report concerns only the grouped-linear signature transition. It is independent of other TE 2.17 packaging or import behavior changes.
Describe the bug
Transformer Engine 2.17 intentionally changed the private PyTorch
_GroupedLinearautograd call layout while makingGroupedLineargraph-safe.TE 2.16:
TE 2.17:
The change was introduced by f8bda5d0. The public
GroupedLinear.forwardaccepts both list and tensor split inputs, while the internallinear_fndispatch boundary changed positionally.We understand that
_GroupedLinearis private and that downstream users cannot assume its signature will remain stable. In practice, however, there does not appear to be a public functional or interception API for these use cases, so some downstream integrations currently use this boundary to intercept grouped GEMMs or invoke them with externally owned weights. Upgrading TE alone therefore causes deterministic runtime failures in those integrations.Two downstream examples are affected:
NVIDIA ModelOpt intercepts the grouped-linear function to quantize its input and weights. Its compatibility logic finds
non_tensor_argsin the signature and readsnon_tensor_args[0]asm_splits. With TE 2.17, that value isuse_bias, so calibration fails with:Tracking issue: NVIDIA/Model-Optimizer#1940
Megatron-Bridge directly calls
_GroupedLinear.apply/forwardwith externally owned grouped adapter weights. The TE 2.16 layout passesx, non_tensor_args, weights..., biases.... Under TE 2.17, the same call is shifted: the old tuple is interpreted asm_splits, the first weight is interpreted asnon_tensor_args, and the remaining weights and biases are mispartitioned. The downstream compatibility fix is NVIDIA-NeMo/Megatron-Bridge#4721.Steps/Code to reproduce bug
The failure is reproduced by changing only the TE pin in Megatron-Bridge PR #4696:
2.16.0+d64bc14datd64bc14dc87eb658ab98839e4b7687595ee53e2d2.17.0+2e559f06at2e559f062497bef768dfbe9d7e45548fadeca80anvidia-modelopt==0.44.0rc5Run:
The first calibration forward fails at the
len(False)exception shown above. The same failure occurs on both GB200 and H100 runners. Full failing job: Megatron-Bridge GitHub Actions.The signature transition can also be confirmed directly:
Requested guidance / compatibility support
We will update the affected downstream integrations to handle the new layout. To make that migration less disruptive, would the TE maintainers consider publishing a TE 2.17.x patch release with a short-lived transition path for both grouped-linear call layouts?
If practical, the compatibility path could cover both grad-enabled
_GroupedLinear.applyand direct no-grad_GroupedLinear.forwarddispatch, preserve the correct backward arity, and emit a deprecation warning for the legacy form before it is removed in a later feature release. We are not asking for indefinite compatibility for the private API.Because wrappers such as ModelOpt intercept the
linear_fnboundary before_GroupedLinear.forwardexecutes, compatibility may need to be provided at that dispatch/hook boundary rather than only inside the autograd function. A regression test using a wrappedlinear_fnwould cover this downstream use case.If dual-layout support at this private boundary is not feasible, guidance on the intended supported approach—or an equivalent stable functional/interception API—would be equally helpful. Public
GroupedLinearowns its parameters, so it is not currently a drop-in replacement for callers that need to supply externally owned grouped weights.Environment overview (please complete the following information)
uv2.16.0+d64bc14d2.17.0+2e559f06nvidia-modelopt==0.44.0rc5Environment details
Device details
Additional context
The old and new contracts are straightforward for downstream code to distinguish when it owns the call: prefer the explicit
m_splitsparameter when present, otherwise usenon_tensor_args[0]. The harder compatibility case is an interceptor that TE calls through the changed positional boundary, which is why a short TE-side transition window would be valuable.This report concerns only the grouped-linear signature transition. It is independent of other TE 2.17 packaging or import behavior changes.